JS: Hello, and welcome, today I’ll be interviewing a very well known painter, Mr.Gustave Courbet! Thank you so much for taking time out of your schedule for this interview.
GC: Not a problem.
JS: So here’s the first question- your art is very distinct for your time, what inspired you to paint like this?
GC: Ah, that is simple, rebellion. I wanted to disregard the government- break traditions. I wanted to show people how nature truly is. Nature is not simple and fine. Nature is… harsh. It is irregular.
JS: And does this rebellion have anything to do with your parents?
GC: Yes, I suppose you could say. My parents wanted me to study law- but I ignored them. I vowed that I would lead a life of a rebel- of a savage. And I suppose I really did turn out like that. Hahaha…
JS: Hahaha. So was there anyone whom you didn’t rebel against? A mentor? What impact did these people have on your life?
GC: Well I did have some mentors- but then again I suppose I was my own mentor. I studied under Baron Charles von Steuben. The Dutch painters Rembrandt, Chardin, and Hals also inspired me.
JS: What do you mean by “I was my own mentor”?
GC: I think that- while Steuben taught me a great deal of things, I think that I learned most by copying and studying other paintings.
JS: What type of paintings did you look at? Did you look at a specific style?
GC: I was very interested in Italian, Spanish and Dutch paintings.
JS: I know that art at the time you started painting was very different then what you made, but exactly how different?
GC: Very. It was filled with historicism, that is to say, they only painted the past. As I once said: “the art of painting can only consist of the representation of objects which are visible and tangible for the artist” ("Rehs Galleries, Inc.") Exhibitions didn’t accept my accept my paintings- it didn’t fit their style.
JS: And this angered you?
GC: It dumbfounded me. It drove me to the point where I made my own pavilions to display my paintings! But eventually three years later I made a painting which they accepted.
JS: The Self-Portrait with Black Dog?
GC: Yes.
JS: And how was the world itself when you started painting, politically?
GC: I never agreed with the world politically. My grandfather had fought in the French Revolution and my involvements in small revolutions have ended up imprisoning me.
JS: And what about economically?
GC: A mess. Workers were poor and treated like dirt. I think my painting The Stone Breakers best describes this. Personally I was low on funds. The reason I made so many self-portraits was because I didn’t have the money to pay for models.
JS: Culturally?
GC: Hmmm… I greatly enjoyed the works of the Dutch masters- they greatly inspired me.
JS: And what techniques did you use in your art?
GC: I did something that not many painters do. I am very physical with my paintings. I often stroke the painting using rags. I even use my bare hands on it.
JS: And why do you do that?
GC: I think the canvas should be treated like a human. The canvas should be caressed. The canvas should be kneaded. The canvas should even be attacked. This gives the painting life and makes distinct shapes.
JS: What opportunities have you had through your life that has brought you where you are now?
GC: Well I think one of the greatest opportunities I have had was my parents letting me leave the career in law and allowing me to become the adventurer that I am. If it weren’t for that I would not have become the artist I am today. After all thanks to my journeys I was inspired to show what I have seen.
JS: And from there on you were fascinated with the arts?
GC: Correct.
JS: What Hardships did you face on the road to becoming an artist?
GC: College. “I went to the Collège de Besançon where I learned to despise teaching…I learned the least I could so as not to burden my head with things useless to me.” ("Rehs Galleries, Inc.")
JS: You purposely didn’t pay attention?
GC: Of course! Why fill my head with that nonsense! The food in Besançon was terrible. And the rooms- Oh, the rooms! They were cold and decrepit. Oh, how I missed my home. Finally my parents let me study at the art academy.
JS: Well then what limited you as an artist, or better yet, as a person?
GC: I was limited by how people thought of realism. It took a while before people could accept realism and me.
JS: People were caught up with other forms of art?
GC: Of course. They weren’t ready for realism.
JS: Hahaha. So it appears it’s almost time for me to go, but before that are there any anecdotes you’d like to share that show how you’ve gotten to where you are?
GC: Rebellion and freedom are most important. As I have said in one of the letters I sent to a friend of mine: “I am fifty years old and I have always lived in freedom; let me end my life free; when I am dead let this be said of me: 'He belonged to no school, to no church, to no institution, to no academy, least of all to any régime except the régime of liberty” (Courbet) My sense of a free spirit has taught me to follow my own ideas and thanks to that I have started an entire movement.
JS: Thank you for your time. Salut!
GC: Au revoir et salut.
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